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Aesopian
It's time for me to reveal my secrets. Below is my current favorite choke. It is extremely high percentage, so much so that you'll actually feel like it was too easy. Oh, you think I'm joking but I've had people come back to me and say just that. You'll have maybe two or three fingers in the collar and spin out for this and think there's no way it's really that tight. It doesn't feel that tight to you. Then they tap. It's magic. And I'm going to share this magic with you.

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I am going for the basic rear collar choke (as seen here), but they are keeping their left arm tight to their body, denying me from reaching under to grab the collar.

Notice how low my grip is on the collar. This may be because I am unable to feed it deeper, or I just plan on doing the following choke already. This choke actually works better with a looser grip; gripping too deeply in the collar can actually put stress on your wrist later.

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Unable to get under their arm, I reach down and grab their knee with my left hand.

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I pull myself to the knee as I throw my left hook across their body and take out my right hook.

I need to spin out and bring my right leg behind their head before they can put their weight on my leg and prevent me from doing so.

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After spinning out, it should be like they've fallen backwards into the space you opened up. Notice how I am sitting up, not letting my hips be trapped under them. You know you've got it right when their head is resting on your thigh. Keep ahold of their knee so they can't run or roll away.

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To defend the choke, Greg has reached up and grabbed my arm to try to pull it over his head, which will stop it.

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To prevent this, I throw my legs over his arm until I've pinned it then I cross my ankles. Do this whether or not they attempt the defense. I just taught it in this context to show you how to stop a common defense.

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The important detail at this point is to make sure your calf is on their shoulder in order to lock down their upper body.

You'll find that if you keep working to trap this arm, you'll catch it like it's in the crucifix or even put them into triangles.

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To finish, I lay back and arch my shoulders, pulling on the lapel and the knee. The grip on the knee prevents them from turning away from it. This is a really powerful choke since it puts your entire back into it.
2cents
also, if you really want to make this guy tap quick throw your right leg over his head. its called the "hell choke". actually the 1st choke i learned, i usually do it when they are turtling and i stay standing.
Aesopian
Like this?

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Usagi
The first one looks like the choke that Royce Gracie used to defeat Minoki Ichihara in UFC II.
2cents
and look at that nice armbar set up. this series was the 1st i learned and is still my favorite.
EJC Judoka
This is favorite choke currently. I typically try it when uke is turtled or flat on their stomach or after a failed throw. I recently found that it is not neccessary to roll them over as I had previously always done.
TeddyRoosevelt
QUOTE(2cents @ Oct 2 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]198898[/snapback]

also, if you really want to make this guy tap quick throw your right leg over his head. its called the "hell choke". actually the 1st choke i learned, i usually do it when they are turtling and i stay standing.


Yes. It is called 'Jigoku Jime' (hell choke)

http://judoinfo.com/discuss/lofiversion/index.php/t46.html


http://www.judoinfo.com/chokes.htm

Aesopian is showing a nice picturial series of kuzure Jigoku Jime.
Geoff
nice tutorial, keep them coming, they are much appreciated

Geoff
JudoSensei
QUOTE(TeddyRoosevelt @ Oct 2 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]198947[/snapback]


Yes. It is called 'Jigoku Jime' (hell choke)

http://judoinfo.com/discuss/lofiversion/index.php/t46.html


http://www.judoinfo.com/chokes.htm

Aesopian is showing a nice picturial series of kuzure Jigoku Jime.


Actually I believe it is an okuri eri jime.

2cents
QUOTE(JudoSensei @ Oct 3 2006, 05:18 AM) [snapback]199095[/snapback]

Actually I believe it is an okuri eri jime.

ah, oh! did you feel the earth shake? JS and TR are going to battle!!! ohmy.gif
TeddyRoosevelt
QUOTE(JudoSensei @ Oct 3 2006, 05:18 AM) [snapback]199095[/snapback]

Actually I believe it is an okuri eri jime.


Hi Judosensei,

It must then be a very kuzure Okuri eri jime? It's done with only one hand? From my understanding the 'sliding' collar choke (the 'Okuri') is called 'sliding' because the sliding is done with the hand pulling down on the opposite collar as the choking hand across the throat. So two hands are needed to perform a Okuri Eri Jime.

Kata Ha Jime has the exact same choking hand across the throat as in Okuri except the opposite hand is placed behind Uke's neck, which might suggest Kata Ha Jime is only a kuzure form of Okuri eri jime? In this series of photos, Tori has his leg placed almost in a figure four as found in Jigoku Jime, one hand around the throat as does Okuri eri jime, but the free hand is stabilzing Uke's leg and not aiding in the choke.

In my humble opinion I don't see how these photo's demonstrate any kind of Okuri eri jime? Please compare these set of photographs with those found on the Rear Collar Choke thread. Thanks!
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