 Kata Guruma Origins?, 100% sure it's from wrestling? |
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Is there 100% irrefutable proof that Kano learnt Kata Guruma by studying western wrestling texts?
Did Kata guruma in any form exist pre judo in Japanese arts (especially such as Sumo)? -------------------- "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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bob_stra Kata Guruma Origins? Sep 7 2007, 07:26 PM
JudoDad To the contrary...
"Kazuzo Kudo tells of Kan... Sep 7 2007, 07:41 PM bob_stra Kata guruma existed in old jujitsu styles?
Any id... Sep 7 2007, 07:54 PM
Cichorei Kano QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 8 2007, 04:54 AM) Ka... Sep 8 2007, 03:16 AM
bob_stra QUOTE(Cichorei Kano @ Sep 8 2007, 03:16 A... Sep 8 2007, 03:34 AM Richard Riehle The historical accounts seem to confirm that Kano-... Sep 8 2007, 05:54 AM Cichorei Kano QUOTE(Richard Riehle @ Sep 8 2007, 02:54 ... Sep 8 2007, 06:15 AM
Saitama Steve QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 7 2007, 08:54 PM) Ka... Sep 10 2007, 01:40 AM Judo Tom Ive always heard that he got it from wrestling/sum... Sep 7 2007, 08:13 PM bob_stra QUOTE(Judo Tom @ Sep 7 2007, 08:13 PM) ht... Sep 7 2007, 08:16 PM Archimedes QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 7 2007, 03:16 PM) Fo... Sep 8 2007, 06:30 PM JudoSensei QUOTE(Judo Tom @ Sep 7 2007, 01:13 PM) Iv... Sep 8 2007, 06:28 AM
Cichorei Kano QUOTE(JudoSensei @ Sep 8 2007, 03:28 PM) ... Sep 8 2007, 07:23 AM RightintheFace QUOTE(Cichorei Kano @ Sep 8 2007, 03:23 A... Sep 10 2007, 01:51 AM kanojujitsu QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 10 2007, 01:51... Sep 10 2007, 02:07 AM bob_stra QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 10 2007, 01:51... Sep 10 2007, 03:25 AM RightintheFace QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 9 2007, 11:25 PM) In... Sep 12 2007, 10:42 AM Y-Chromosome QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 12 2007, 06:42... Sep 12 2007, 04:42 PM vanish/doom QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 10 2007, 03:25 AM) I... Sep 12 2007, 05:23 PM Richard Riehle QUOTE(JudoSensei @ Sep 7 2007, 11:28 PM) ... Sep 8 2007, 06:59 PM Y-Chromosome In Kodokan Judo Throwing Techniques, Daigo Sensei ... Sep 10 2007, 02:23 AM johan smits Just a few words,
There are only so many things o... Sep 12 2007, 05:47 AM Cichorei Kano I agree with Steve, Y-Chromosome and Johan.
RITF... Sep 12 2007, 07:35 PM RightintheFace QUOTE(Cichorei Kano @ Sep 12 2007, 03:35 ... Sep 12 2007, 08:40 PM bob_stra QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 12 2007, 08:40... Sep 13 2007, 05:45 AM RightintheFace QUOTE(bob_stra @ Sep 13 2007, 01:45 AM) N... Sep 13 2007, 10:32 AM Kaji QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 13 2007, 06:32... Sep 13 2007, 10:56 AM bob_stra QUOTE(RightintheFace @ Sep 13 2007, 10:32... Sep 13 2007, 11:23 AM johan smits I think this is called ganseki otoshi in aikido. M... Sep 13 2007, 01:50 PM Cichorei Kano QUOTE(johan smits @ Sep 13 2007, 10:50 PM... Sep 13 2007, 02:07 PM charlie Hi CK Sensei, I've been wondering, probably it... Sep 12 2007, 07:51 PM bob_stra Yep - that one is ganseki otoshi. Sep 13 2007, 02:13 PM  |
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