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judoka_uk breaks down Koga's seoi nage

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View Postjudoka_uk, on 01 December 2010 - 11:04 AM, said:

View PostSisyphusMyth, on 01 December 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

I believe that many people here are not as familiar with Koga's variation as they imagine. I believe most comments are still valid and good, but some key details I think are off. You *should* step deep and you *are* stepping back into uke (after they're loaded onto you) and the result *should* be that you topple forward. This is the version I'm talking about (shown here as morote not ippon):

This is going to sound rude, but actually I believe you are not as familiar with Koga's throw as you imagine.

For reference this is what I'm talking about by the imaginary triangle:
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Lets look at some stills taken from your video and Koga's video:

Koga's initial step:
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Look at the space, you can see Koga has stepped perfectly on where the point of the imaginary triangle would be. If you watch the video you posted again you can see Koga waving his hand around in front of uke before he takes his initial step to emphasise the importance of space.

Your initial step:
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On the base line of the imaginary triangle you have no space for you off balance uke and you to turn into.

Koga's second 'deep' step:
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Look at how his initial step remains in exactly the same place and he has perfect body posture with a dead straight back perfectly centered over his hips and uke's balance completely destroyed.

Your second 'deep' step:
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See how utterly different they are because you've tried to off balance uke and fit yourself into the same non-existant space. Your uke is actually bent at the knees with his weight back because of it!

I promise you if you practice your seoi nage keeping the triangle concept in mind and preserving that space and post a video of it it will be a million times better because you will have the space to be able to properly apply kuzushi, put uke on their toes, keep good posture etc... etc...

Source: Seoi Nage on Crash Pad

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01 December 2010 - 06:04 PM
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08 December 2010 - 01:22 PM

Pseudonymous, on 01 December 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

More people should use this feature!

I agree. The only reason why I started using this is because I'm not a big fan of how the search feature works and it's easier for me to create my own archive of posts I really like.
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