Undershirts in the Kodokan
Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:45 AM
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:12 AM
Undershirts are not needed, not necessary and not part of judo. No male needs them - in the Kodokan or elsewhere.
If undershirts, why not gloves, why not head guards? Mind you, I used to compete against a US -86kg player who always used to wear a head guard. Somehow it was allowed for him!!!
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:35 AM
I have trained both with and without undershirts. I now only use undershirts. They are good for protecting your skin and help with the profuse sweating encountered in Judo training. I see the use of undershirts as not a big deal and would not interfere in the practice of judo.
Gloves would help protect your skin but I think there would be loss in grip and sensitivity.
Head gear would help prevent injuries but may encourage dangerous actions and stray from Judo's original purpose. Not to mention that it would just look plain silly and would not be good for the spectator aspect of judo.
Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:03 AM
It would be interesting to hear their response. I'm sure it would be along the lines of what Jonesy says, but it could be most edifying to get their official explanation.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:15 AM
Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:21 AM
3rd nipple I reckon.........
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:20 AM
1.It keeps the judogi much cleaner – helps prevent the ‘yellowing’ inside that occurs (and yes I do wash my judogi after every training session) – just compare a males jacket inside to a females and look at the difference.
2.It’s just more expected these days – children and parents don’t want to see it – the British Judo Association received complaints a while back from schools reporting that students had seen the instructors chest.
I never wear a blue judogi for coaching though!
Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:45 AM
If people want to wear undershirts at judo then fine. Their choice, but this above quote borders on the ridiculous. Not that I am saying that the poster is ridiculous,but that anybody complaining to the BJA about seeing a male chest below a gi is ridiculous. I teach judo as part of a school syllabus and never had a problem like this.
Parents looking for a problem where none exist.
I will not agree that wearing undershirts is more expected these days though.
Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:47 AM
Oh, no, not a man's chest?!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:20 AM
The sun has set on the Empire.
I don't think that seeing a man's chest will traumatise a child - but judo coaches should be aware that schools and parents do complain about things like this, these days.....
I also wear (compression) shorts under my judogi trousers so that getting changed in front of people is not an issue - I advise my players to do this so that they can get changed matside if they need to without event organisers having a go at them.
This post has been edited by goutetsu: 31 May 2012 - 11:21 AM
Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:11 PM
I do wear clothing under my gi, and plan to continue to do so, but since I'm female I have not yet been asked to justify this.
Interesting topic, I look forward to reading the answers put forward.
This post has been edited by Lystra: 31 May 2012 - 01:12 PM
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 02:37 PM
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. I'd say it weren't true if sadly I hadn't witnessed similar things here in the U.S.
What's next hijab? We wear ALREADY wear a shirt. It's called a judogi. So now we must wear a shirt under our shirt? Should I wear pants under my underpants?
What doesn't make any sense to me is that you go to the beach and you don't expect men to be wearing shirts.
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