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#1 User is offline   RagingDemon 

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:39 AM

Between greco and freestyle wrestling: which style often utilizes hip throws like ogoshi, uki goshi, koshi guruma, and ippon seoi nage?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:57 AM

For the most part, hip throws like the ones are legal in both styles with a bit of adjustment for the lack of a gi. As far as in which style such throws (and throws in general) are more common, that would be greco-roman. Freestyle allows both upper-body and lower-body attacks, whereas greco doesn't allow attacks with or to the legs (no shots or trips). So, throws are far more common in greco.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:30 AM

In Europe particular as you head east the upper body throws become alot more common.

Drop Shoulder Throw (Ippon Seoi) is quite common

see around 39 secs in this vid:

37sec Ippon Seoi
44, 1:18secs Uchi Mata
3:56 Hip Throw

very high level technique on display here especially the entries and foot-sweeps, also alot of Tani Otoshi type counters.



Judo purists will put crap all over stuff like this but IMO the skill level here and in alot of Freestyle wrestling leaves the knockers for dead. The trows here would be easy ippon in Judo and these guys are ripping them off in no-gi against powerful scramblers. In the main though leg attacks and body lock throws/suplexes are the most common attacks of course.

I don't think Judo and Greco are directly comparable due to Greco have no attacks below the waist, you enter differently.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:10 AM

View PostRicebalereversal, on 25 February 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:



Judo purists will put crap all over stuff like this but IMO the skill level here and in alot of Freestyle wrestling leaves the knockers for dead. The trows here would be easy ippon in Judo and these guys are ripping them off in no-gi against powerful scramblers.

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That video was insane! Pure killers. I doubt any judo purist would be able to throw these guys with ease. I believe wrestling and judo go hand and hand.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:30 AM

I am sure ricebalereversal has seen this.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:48 PM

View PostRagingDemon, on 26 February 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

Between greco and freestyle wrestling: which style often utilizes hip throws like ogoshi, uki goshi, koshi guruma, and ippon seoi nage?

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Seionage isnt a hip throw btw. Wouldnt have bothered commenting but someone would have corrected it sooner or later :big grin:
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:41 PM

Not a hip throw but still havent seen an ippon seoinage that has looked so sweet as this one from this (japanese) fella. :big grin:

:46 seconds in...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=f5KpF8yAG1o

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