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#1 User is offline   flipmonkey12 

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:14 AM

do you see a similaritiey to yoko gruma from Kesa gatame? CUZ I BEEN LIKING OGOSHI AND TANI OTOSHI KO UCHI AND FROM THE OGOSHI TANIOTOSHI POSITON AND I THINK YOKO GRUMA CAN FIT IN TO THOS TO MOVES WHEN TIMES RIGHT....ALSO AS A CONTER TO UCHI MATA? WHAT DO YOU THINK? :hap:






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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:23 AM

I think you should improve your writing skills so we know what the heck you are actually asking....

Oh, and I think your CAPS lock suddenly got switched on halfway through your first paragraph.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:07 AM

Your right
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:41 AM

yoko grumma from a under hook? got a feeling similar to scarf hold turn over when u get your hips close and role him over your sholder. do any of you agree?
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 03:38 AM

I don't have a clue what message you're trying to get across here. Sorry.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 06:54 AM

View Postjudogido, on 11 March 2010 - 02:23 AM, said:

I think you should improve your writing skills so we know what the heck you are actually asking....

Oh, and I think your CAPS lock suddenly got switched on halfway through your first paragraph.

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 11:00 AM

View Postflipmonkey12, on 11 March 2010 - 08:14 AM, said:

do you see a similaritiey to yoko gruma from Kesa gatame? CUZ I BEEN LIKING OGOSHI AND TANI OTOSHI KO UCHI AND FROM THE OGOSHI TANIOTOSHI POSITON AND I THINK YOKO GRUMA CAN FIT IN TO THOS TO MOVES WHEN TIMES RIGHT....ALSO AS A CONTER TO UCHI MATA? WHAT DO YOU THINK? :hap:


I think one of the most effective counters to uchi mata is tai sabaki, possibly uchi mata sukashi, or a form of sukui nage. If one were to require sutemi waza, I would go for tomoe nage, after moving out of the way of the 'sweeping' leg. Still, one would not be utilising the momentum of uke's thrown, only his unbalanced position..
It seems to me that uchi mata sukashi is a better fit.

I have attempted to decipher the rest of your post, but have gotten nowhere. I do not understand what you mean with any of it, to be quite honest.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:58 AM

View PostHyperborean, on 03 April 2010 - 12:00 PM, said:

I think one of the most effective counters to uchi mata is tai sabaki, possibly uchi mata sukashi, or a form of sukui nage. If one were to require sutemi waza, I would go for tomoe nage, after moving out of the way of the 'sweeping' leg. Still, one would not be utilising the momentum of uke's thrown, only his unbalanced position..
It seems to me that uchi mata sukashi is a better fit.

I have attempted to decipher the rest of your post, but have gotten nowhere. I do not understand what you mean with any of it, to be quite honest.


Ive seen yoko guruma counter to an uchi mata, but you defenitly are right. Much easier to counter with Sukashi.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:40 PM

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