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wdax, on Feb 10 2010, 09:47 AM, said:
Well, translating means "writing the same in a different language" and not commenting it. The confusion I think is because of a misleading use of the words "Tori" and "Uke". So I know will try to explain, what it means.
1) The rules are fixed now and like always, officially there will be no change, but only "interpretations" and "clearifications" - also if there are "new". This is "political correctness....
2) The Problem:
Some people have realized, that with the new rules, like they were introduced originally, there will be a big, big problems with "diagonal cross-grips". This is a grip, in which a person grips with his right hand over the right shoulder or arm and holds the gi or the belt of his opponent.
Why would this be a problem?
If my opponent has taken such a grip, he almost has won. He can do all kinds of maki-komi, o-uchi-gari and "Khabarelli". Almost the only way to deal with such an opponents grip is to attack his leg with my free hand. If he grips over my right shoulder with right hand, my left hand is free to attack f.ex. with te-guruma.
If now it would be not allowed for me - and punished with hansoku-make - to attack with my left hand, then the "diagonal-cross-grip" would became a kind of "sure win" for my opponent. ok?
After realizing this, an exception of the rules were introduced:
If a person takes a diagonal grip, then the opponent is allowed to attack the legs with his hands.
But now another problem arises: What is a cross grip exactly? The first "interpretation" was very unsatisfying, becaue it was a very "narrow" one. Cross grip is only gripping of the belt in defensive intention. Two minutes of thinking about it, would normally be enough to realize that this is more then stupid....
The answer given now is much better: cross-gripping is every diagonal grip with the right (left) hand on top of or over the right (left) arm or shoulder, no matter if the gi ist taken or the belt.
In this situation the competitor who takes the grip must attack immediately otherwise he recieves shido (it´s not new) and the other one is allowed to attack the legs with his hand(s).
So everybody should know a bit better, what is allowed and what is not.
But please keep in mind: This is not an IJF-statement, this is an information of the german referee-commission about the interpretation of the new rules how they were applied during the last IJF-events and how the rules are aplied in Germany.
1) The rules are fixed now and like always, officially there will be no change, but only "interpretations" and "clearifications" - also if there are "new". This is "political correctness....
2) The Problem:
Some people have realized, that with the new rules, like they were introduced originally, there will be a big, big problems with "diagonal cross-grips". This is a grip, in which a person grips with his right hand over the right shoulder or arm and holds the gi or the belt of his opponent.
Why would this be a problem?
If my opponent has taken such a grip, he almost has won. He can do all kinds of maki-komi, o-uchi-gari and "Khabarelli". Almost the only way to deal with such an opponents grip is to attack his leg with my free hand. If he grips over my right shoulder with right hand, my left hand is free to attack f.ex. with te-guruma.
If now it would be not allowed for me - and punished with hansoku-make - to attack with my left hand, then the "diagonal-cross-grip" would became a kind of "sure win" for my opponent. ok?
After realizing this, an exception of the rules were introduced:
If a person takes a diagonal grip, then the opponent is allowed to attack the legs with his hands.
But now another problem arises: What is a cross grip exactly? The first "interpretation" was very unsatisfying, becaue it was a very "narrow" one. Cross grip is only gripping of the belt in defensive intention. Two minutes of thinking about it, would normally be enough to realize that this is more then stupid....
The answer given now is much better: cross-gripping is every diagonal grip with the right (left) hand on top of or over the right (left) arm or shoulder, no matter if the gi ist taken or the belt.
In this situation the competitor who takes the grip must attack immediately otherwise he recieves shido (it´s not new) and the other one is allowed to attack the legs with his hand(s).
So everybody should know a bit better, what is allowed and what is not.
But please keep in mind: This is not an IJF-statement, this is an information of the german referee-commission about the interpretation of the new rules how they were applied during the last IJF-events and how the rules are aplied in Germany.
In Spain we have been instructed on the same way.
This post has been edited by Kojai: 11 February 2010 - 11:48 AM
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