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#1 User is offline   Judo Tom 

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 01:05 AM

ok I competed this weekend and the next day or so my right forearm was very sore. Today I noticed that there are 3 very small pea size bumps a few inches apart underneath my skin. This is the same arm I broke about 3 years ago. 2 plates 12 screws are inside. Im guessing it is related to the "stress" i put on the arm since it just happened and seems directly related to the tournament.

Just wondering if anyone out there has noticed anything like this before.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 01:45 AM

worse case scenario - your arm is like my leg. That's probably not what's going on, but I would immediately schedule an appointment with my doctor. The pea sized masses thing to me suggests that you may be fighting something off, and these are lymph nodes that are swollen as a result. Makes a certain amount of sense - you were grabbing people and people were grabbing you and you were exposing yourself to whatever crap they've been going through, and visa versa, H1N1 and all of that. But, hardware has a tendency to attract infection. So, see your doctor, ASAP, especially since you are acquiring MORE symptoms over time and not fewer. If it's some sort of infection, you want to catch it as early as possible. So, see your doctor. Did I suggest you see your doctor? If not, see your doctor ASAP.

There are a lot of possibilities, most are small and benign, but better safe than sorry. See your doctor.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:04 AM

I agree, I wouldn't waste time on a forum asking health questions. I would get a doctor to look at it and it is better to be safe then sorry.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:21 AM

lol its 10pm :)

I'm seeing doc at 11am tomorrow. Again just looking to see if there are any similar stories. Especially since it happened just after a tournament and right on top of my formally broken arm.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:33 AM

it's difficult to speculate. as they are reasonably evenly spaced apart, to me, it says either the heads of the screws, ouch! or inflamed lymphs, double ouch. I've had both with my ankle. Neither was a particularly good sign. Hopefully, you just did something very minor with somebody with big fingers or something. If they are really solid, and you can't seem to move them, or the movement seems mechanical, then I'd say screw heads (and if you can move them....). I had 2 try to unscrew themselves. I had another 3 start floating around because the bone they were supposed to be screwed into became necrotic (i.e. died). Like I said, I'm an extreme case, so you probably don't have that going on. But, if I'm any indication or motivation to make sure you keep that appointment tomorrow, remember, I was in and out of the hospital several more times, having several more surgeries because my initial surgeon didn't dx the infection in a timely way.

Let me know. I want to find out that you have a series of bug bites or something simple, that we can laugh about.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 11:43 AM

View PostJudo Tom, on Jan 28 2010, 10:05 AM, said:

ok I competed this weekend and the next day or so my right forearm was very sore. Today I noticed that there are 3 very small pea size bumps a few inches apart underneath my skin. This is the same arm I broke about 3 years ago. 2 plates 12 screws are inside. Im guessing it is related to the "stress" i put on the arm since it just happened and seems directly related to the tournament.

Just wondering if anyone out there has noticed anything like this before.


The other posters have said it all; difficult to speculate, go see a qualified board-certified physician.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:07 AM

You could try hitting it with a Bible as my grandmother would have recommended. But that's the risk you run for asking questions about complicated medical conditions on a Judo forum. Personally I'd prefer you sought the advice of a well qualified medical specialist .....and if you have any concerns about their advice seek a second (third, fourth etc.) opinion.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:54 AM

So I saw the doc and he thinks I tore the muscle a bit. It looks like the muscle tore near the area where one of the incisions was made for my surgery.


I could go into more detail if anyone is interested but basically he said that most likely they will disappear with some time but if they get worse or cause pain to let him know.


I appreciate all the responses and if anything else goes on with this ill let everyone know.


Thanks!
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 03:49 AM

View PostJudo Tom, on Jan 28 2010, 08:54 PM, said:

So I saw the doc and he thinks I tore the muscle a bit. It looks like the muscle tore near the area where one of the incisions was made for my surgery.
I could go into more detail if anyone is interested but basically he said that most likely they will disappear with some time but if they get worse or cause pain to let him know.
I appreciate all the responses and if anything else goes on with this ill let everyone know.
Thanks!

whew! glad to hear it! That has to be a relief. Thanks for the follow-up!
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 01:42 PM

Yeah I hope they just disappear and that is the end of it.

I might ask to have an MRI done sooner or later on this arm to see what is really going on inside. I mean I just dont know. My arm/wrist is still weak in some movements compared to my left arm. It also "tires" out faster than my left arm as well and yes I am a righty.

I also have weird spots on the arm that are kinda filled up with fluid that kinda come and go. Also the bone itself kinda get sore to the touch from time to time and well the whole thing just hurts here and there. It is just something that is always in the back of my head and I think.. might be wrong that an MRI would give a complete picture of whats going on... who knows.

I have another tournament feb 13th and I will see how that one goes and if I have any problems I will most likely talk to doc more and see what he thinks about an MRI.

oh those bumps.. are kinda getting a lil softer and less distinctive.. they dont pop out of the arm as much. I think thats a good sign.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 05:59 PM

one thing I noticed before I had my thumb done - I had a nice large ganglia (or however you spell that) at the base of the thumb. The basic theory was that the joint above it was so damaged that scar tissue and other crap would collect at the base of the thumb at the wrist. After surgery, it slowly disappeared after years of existence.

4 3 years out from ankle surgery, the bone still is sore and when hit just right, wow! I've broken bones before and had no problems after healing up, but this one? cold seems to seep into it easier, and the bone still feels tender. Weird, huh? I did have all the hardware removed - supposedly after a year or so you can do that, but it's not mandatory. Still, the bone feels tender, especially in activities that put torque on the bone. I've been told that I should include more impact in my workouts. I commented, "getting thrown on the ground isn't impact enough" and heard, "that's not the impact I'm talking about". It was suggested that I replace the bicycle with some running. Apparently adding impact helps strengthen the bone. How you do that with your arm? Well, if you figure that out, send video :lol:

Yeah, if you're still "off" like you're saying, talking with a doc would be a good idea. Knowing what is going on is always a better idea than just guessing. Glad to hear that the pea sized lumps are disappearing. Might want to check into the value of doing some forearm strengthening stuff and seeing if that helps you feel more like yourself.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 09:27 PM

View PostJim, on Jan 28 2010, 06:07 PM, said:

You could try hitting it with a Bible as my grandmother would have recommended.


I used to get those bumps, ganglian cysts?, on the inside of my wrists.

Once I asked a friends mom who used to be a nurse (apparently back before pain killers), and there was your answer, she went into the kitchen, came back and handed me the good book.

I guess when the rest of your wrist swells up from self mutilation, the original issue does go away.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 08:25 PM

update for anyone who still cares about my stupid arm:

ok bumps havent really changed since 4-5 days after the tournament. all the other pain and swelling has prett much gone back to pre tournament levels. I have another tournament next weekend so lets see what happens then.

Im up for trying anything and I am going to start walking on my hands more :) I do carthwheels and handstands as part of my warmup and hey why not keep it going and see what happens. My trainer told me I need to work on hand stands and hand stand push ups any way.

oh the bumps.... definitely feel like a tear/slice in the muscle. like picture a thread/rope and image cutting a few of the individual pieces and pulling it back 1/2 inch. picture a small bump that would form and picture the hole or empty space that would be created. well thats what feels like is going on in my arm. of course i could be super wrong about all of this.... lets see.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 08:56 PM

View PostJudo Tom, on Feb 5 2010, 02:25 PM, said:

update for anyone who still cares about my stupid arm:

ok bumps havent really changed since 4-5 days after the tournament. all the other pain and swelling has prett much gone back to pre tournament levels. I have another tournament next weekend so lets see what happens then.

Im up for trying anything and I am going to start walking on my hands more :) I do carthwheels and handstands as part of my warmup and hey why not keep it going and see what happens. My trainer told me I need to work on hand stands and hand stand push ups any way.

oh the bumps.... definitely feel like a tear/slice in the muscle. like picture a thread/rope and image cutting a few of the individual pieces and pulling it back 1/2 inch. picture a small bump that would form and picture the hole or empty space that would be created. well thats what feels like is going on in my arm. of course i could be super wrong about all of this.... lets see.

have you x-ray? Seriously, make sure nothing is going on with your hardware to cause tearing to your muscle. If it is torn muscle, is it a tear that has to be dealt with medically? That it's not going away is a concern. If you're not seeing a doc before tournament, (and even if you are) let us know how it goes. Oh, and try a few clapping push-ups for that high impact effect ... eeek!
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:38 PM

ahhhh clapping pushups.. thanks for the suggestions.

hmmm i really hope the hardware is not causing muscle tears that would stink.

I am going to the tournament this weekend and if I have more problems after the tournament I will go back to the doc and ask for an xray or mri to see what is going on inside my arm.

Thanks
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