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Qartuli Chidaoba folk style of wrestling in Georgia (Caucas) Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   akzent 

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:59 PM

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 10:07 AM

Tbilisi, Oct 30 - the 60th Palavnoba = the Georgian Chidaoba open class nationals was held.

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28 wrestlers participated; among them guys who have been medalists at World and/or European championships in judo or sambo at 100, +100 or in the open class.
Judoka: Lasha Gujejiani, Adam Okroashvili, Zviad Khanjaliashvili, Georgi Kizilashvili, Nodar Metreveli, Ioseb Mskhaladze.
Best sambo wrestler at the chidaoba nationals – Mirian Pavliashvili, 2007 world & 2008 European champ at 100 kg.

The final: Alexi Davitashvili (3rd at European judo championships in 1994, 2000 and 2001 at +100 and open) vs. Zviad Chinchaladze (2003 European champ and 2003, 2006 and 2007 world medalist at +100 in sambo; medalist at judo tourneys).

Davitashvili won and became the Georgian national champ for the 8th time.

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Davitashvili (red) in action:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=M9dwgKiyI1s

More videos will be added.
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Posted 22 November 2008 - 04:04 PM

Thanks for posting this. Many people do not realize that wrestling or some form of such can be found throughout various regions stretching from Turkey,Georgia, Iran,Iraq,etc. across to Mongolia, China, Japan and down to India. The early and ancient times saw this 'globalization' of such through some conquests and also from independent developments sometimes exported,but grappling of some form seems to be a world-wide human activity for sport, fun, celebration, and warfare or self-defense. Keep up the good work.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:18 PM

Today a special chidaoba tourney was held in Georgia. It was organized by the Georgian chidaoba federation together with the Georgian judo federation.
Almost all top judoka participated (or were moved to participate) - Liparteliani, Zviaduri, Okruashvili, Khergiani...
The idea of the judo federation: Judo under the new rules and the Georgian folk style wrestling have some common features - for instance, you cannot grab below the belt in stand-up, so the folk style may be a good exercise for judoka.
Videos from the tourney:
http://www.myvideo.g...10-2009%2018:32 (the first match begins some 10 seconds later)
http://www.myvideo.g...10-2009%2019:02

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:39 PM

Vids not working for me.

Is that 'Zurab' Zviadauri competing?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:57 AM

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Vids not working for me.

Try again. Sometimes there may be any problems; sometimes they work perfect.

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Is that 'Zurab' Zviadauri competing?

Yes.
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Second link, at 19:33 but his opponent withdrew after 2 min; nothing exciting in that match.

In the same video at 19:31 - Liparteliani's "ippon"

The first dual meet (the first link) was better. Tons of "ippons" :glass)
At 18:57 Mskhaladze sending the 50 kg heavier Zviadi Khanjaliashvili to his back.

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:10 PM

Worked this time. Thanks akzent. Looks good.

Nice to hear some news on Zurab. There hasnt been a peep about him since he was signed to Sengoku-mma over a year ago. You havent heard anything there have you?
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 04:21 PM

Thanks for the videos akzent, always nice to see different styles. I gather they're allowed to grip the vests, kind of an interesting mixture of no-jacket and jacket techniques. Also interesting to see how once again heavyweights tend to fight standing upright, while lighter weights more bent over.
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Posted 19 December 2009 - 10:08 AM

Dec 17, the 2009 Palavnoba (open class nationals) took place.
The +100 judoka Adam Okruashvili won the whole thing beating 8-time title-holder Alexi Davitashvili in the finals.

What was new - the jacket.
The Georgian Chidaoba federation (re)introduced a jacket with sleeves which got abandoned 75 years ago, in Soviet times.
They say Soviet functionaries had replaced the original jacket with sleeves with a sleeveless one in their attempts to destroy Georgian cultural heritage. In this sense, the intoduction of the new old jacket with sleeves is believed to be a return to the "old traditions".

This is how the wrestling costume looked in the late 19th and until the early 1930s
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A picture on the cover of 1935 instruction book shows the new jacket - with short sleeves.
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The same jacket in a manual from 1940, but shorts instead of trousers:
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1984 manual - sleeveless jacket:
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The Dec 17 2009 jacket (pics form the final Okruashvili vs Davitashvili)
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Okrishavili vs Davitashvili matches on video:

Oct 27, final at the Cup of Georgia (seen also in one of the videos in the previous posts); sleeveless
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Ark0mKRKLhM

Dec 17, final at the open class nationals; new jacket
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=JD7FVm1dD3w

This is how costumes (and wrestling styles) change.

This post has been edited by akzent: 19 December 2009 - 10:26 AM

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:00 AM

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Thanks for presentation Georgian Wrestling

I'll add more videos about Georgian Wrestlin(Qartuli Chidaoba)






This post has been edited by GeorgianPower: 21 December 2009 - 10:10 AM

Georgian Traditional Wrestling "Chidaoba"
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:58 PM

Are these Georgian Chidaoba guys licking their chops reading the new judo rules?

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 03:35 PM

View Postder commissar, on Feb 1 2010, 03:58 AM, said:

Are these Georgian Chidaoba guys licking their chops reading the new judo rules?

new judo rules is very usefull for Georgian wrestlers thats why results of georgian national team will be impoved
Georgian Traditional Wrestling "Chidaoba"
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 02:10 AM

View PostGeorgianPower, on Feb 1 2010, 03:35 PM, said:

new judo rules is very usefull for Georgian wrestlers thats why results of georgian national team will be impoved


Is there any resources in English for Chidaoba i.e. what are the rules, instruction books, where one can get the jacket etc?
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 08:59 AM

View PostCheeseburger, on Feb 2 2010, 06:10 AM, said:

Is there any resources in English for Chidaoba i.e. what are the rules, instruction books, where one can get the jacket etc?

rules of Chidaoba we can find only on georgian language http://sport.gov.ge/...amp;info_id=561
chidaoba is alike to nowaday judo rules but according to chidaoba rules you can't continue fight in parter,you must fight in stand.90% of georgians judokas come in judo from chidaoba.thas why georgian judokas weak point is parter they can't fight in down.many chidaoba mode inculcate in judo.
Georgian Traditional Wrestling "Chidaoba"
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:12 AM

View PostGeorgianPower, on Feb 1 2010, 07:35 PM, said:

new judo rules is very usefull for Georgian wrestlers thats why results of georgian national team will be impoved

we have first rezults from world cup Tbilisi 2010
-60 kg
1. David ASUMBANI (GEO)
2. Betkil SHUKVANI (GEO)
3. Takeshi MATSUKI (JPN)
Amiran PAPINASHVILI (GEO)
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-81 kg
1. Levan TSIKLAURI (GEO)
2. Khvicha KHUTSISHVILI (GEO)
3. David KARBELASHVILI (GEO)
Ioseb TSELAURI (GEO)
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Georgian Traditional Wrestling "Chidaoba"
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